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A MOUSE
CLUBHOUSE EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW
RANDY THORNTON
talks about getting his first job at Disney
by Scott Wolf

For
me, one of the best things about working for Disney was getting to meet
some great people and learn about what they do. Back in the early '90s I
was working in the same building and on the same floor as Walt Disney
Records and I spent many memorable hours with Randy Thornton, talking
about our shared love of Disney, getting tips about audio and editing,
and observing him at his craft while he was working on some of my
favorite CD's to ever come out of Walt Disney Records.
Although I never officially interviewed Randy, this day felt like a
throwback to some great old times, and I'm so happy to be able to share
these interviews with you.
Scott Wolf: Were you a Disney fan growing up?
Randy Thornton: Yeah, as a matter of fact the first film I ever remember
seeing was “Mary Poppins.” There was something just really magical about
it. It just sort of stood out to me when I was a kid. Really completely
blew me away.
I was born in 1960 so I was only like four when the film first came out
and then I saw some of the animation and things and early on I wanted to
be an animator for Disney, so I took art classes and stuff. Nothing
really hardcore but that’s what I wanted to do.
My first hero actually was Abraham Lincoln because I was born on his
birthday. So most of my school reports were about Abraham Lincoln and I
think that also got me in to Disneyland, too. Because when “Great
Moments with Mister Lincoln” came out here (to Disneyland), here’s my
first idol in front of me and I have very fond memories of that
attraction and I think that’s when the two Disney things came together.
Honestly, it wasn’t until I started working here that I realized how
much of an important figure that Abraham Lincoln was to Walt (Disney) as
well. But, yeah, I wanted to be an animator.
SW: So where along the line did that change?
RT: I learned to play the saxophone in fourth grade and was very very
bad. I still have my instruction book which says, “BUY REEDS!” I was
stuck on page 9 for a very very very long time. By eighth grade I
improved a bit and was looking forward to high school and I started
getting more and more involved in music, and I taught myself how to play
the piano. I tried to take some lessons but I wanted to play. I didn’t
want to do the scales and things… you need to have the foundations and
things, but I just wanted to play.
I guess I had a natural aptitude or something because I could pick up
any instrument and play it quickly. My high school band director went to
my parents and said, “Randy has a gift here and I don’t think I have the
facilities to help him, and I think that he would benefit from a tutor.”
And my parents said, “Well, he’s not going to be a musician.” But by the
same token they gave me trumpets and clarinets and pianos and things to
play but, “He’s not going to be a musician.”
Then I started getting involved in theatre in high school and was in a
lot of the plays, and was fortunate to be cast as most of the leads. So
at that point I’m going, “I don’t know what I want to do now.” The
Disney animation thing sort of fell off. I was still a huge Disney fan,
people would always ask me, as I’m sure you remember when you were
younger as well, they would always come to me about questions about
Disneyland and where it was and I had it memorized.
So I was really kind of in a flux. I didn’t know what I wanted to do
with music, or theatre, or art. How was I going to balance these? Do I
have to pick just one? So I floundered around for awhile. I tried going
to PCC (Pasadena City College), was there for a couple of years. Didn’t
graduate with a degree or anything.
Then I got a job at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, running
their multimedia auditorium and also handing out photo and film
equipment, and I met a lot of the film students and photography students
and I ended up writing a couple of student film scores. Just simple
little things, and decided I wanted to become a film score composer.
Of course, in 1977 when John Williams came out with Star Wars, that sort
of spun me in the musical direction even farther. So I figured, well
there’s a way. The theatre’s involved to an extent as far as that I’m
trying to interpret somebody’s acting as a musical style or trying to
create emotion.
I loved soundtracks, particularly starting with the three big
influences, “Mary Poppins,” the very first soundtrack for me, and then
“The Sting,” ragtime music, and then “Star Wars.” I wanted to be a film
score composer but I just didn’t really have the training or the
background. I feel pretty lucky that I can pick up a lot of things and I
think of things musically but I could never really consider myself a
real musician. I mean, I have some stuff and I write music and I play
things but then I meet real musicians and I go, “Ahh… I can’t hold a
candle to that.”
So I was really floundering around. I’ve always had an affection for
Disney. As I’ve said I wanted to be an animator but that dream kind of
went away after awhile. One of the film students got a job as an
apprentice editor at the (Disney) studio and I said, “God, it would be
great to work at the studio.” To get involved in the industry somehow, I
don’t care… the mailroom. I said, “If there’s ever an opening in the
mail room, let me know.” And about a year or two went by and he called
me up and he said, “Yeah, there’s a position in the mail room.”
I applied, I was at Art Center, I had been there for about three years
at that point and I got a very nice letter back saying that there wasn’t
a position of mutual interest and that they will keep my résumé on file
and I thought, “Oh well.” It was a shock.
SW: I got one of those letters, too. Actually I got it after I got the job
believe it or not. (We laugh)
RT: Well, about two weeks later I get a phone call asking me to come in
for an interview. So I was just stoked. They said, “We were wondering if
we could schedule an interview with you. I said, “I’ll be there
tomorrow.” I could be there NOW! I would have been there yesterday! (We
laugh)
I don’t really have any high aspirations. I’m just willing to come in in
the mail room or whatever, just to be in a creative environment. One of
the things that was a real benefit to me, before I started working at
Art Center, I knew I was different than a lot of people. I really just
couldn’t fit in. I had my friends and stuff and we were all these
creative types without any real focus.
SW: I was the same way. I know what you mean.
RT: When I got to Art Center I realized that there were other people out
there and that they can be just as distracted but they were finding
their focus, so I felt that that was a really good environment for me
and figuring that if I could get into something like Disney…
So I just figured it would be just a really cool way to earn a paycheck
and I go in for the interview and I do my little typing test and they
go, “Well, we’re gonna call you back for a second interview. But, just a
second, let me see if Ron is available.” He goes, “Well, first let me
tell you what this is for. This is for the clerk in the music company.”
And at that point the little guys in my head are going (makes a POW!!
sound effect)!
SW: Did they know that you had a musical background?
RT: I had put that in there. Sort of backtracking a little bit, while I
was at Art Center a friend of mine got a job as the development director
for KPCC in Pasadena and the station manager, Larry Shirk, was
unbelievable. We wanted to do radio drama. Now most of the things that
my friend and I had been writing before when we wanted to write movies
and things were all very visual comedy. We wrote a stage play that we
produced at our old high school as sort of a fundraiser for them.
When our friend Frank Whitely got a job at KPCC as a Development
Director we thought, “What can we do with radio?” I loved the old radio
shows and maybe we can do a spoof on that, like B Movies and “Curse of
the Clam People,” “Sheep of Death.” These are actually titles of shows
that we produced there. We had done some of that and we were getting
students in to do the voices and I would write the music for it and I’d
add sound effects to it.
It was after that that I applied at Disney, so working on the radio
shows, some of the film scoring I had done at Art Center was all on my
résumé, which I found the other day by the way, which was typewritten
and very badly Xeroxed and it was crooked and oh my God, it looks
ancient. You just expect somebody in very fine handwriting and a quill
pen writing around it.
So that was on my résumé, back at the interview he said, “Let me see if
Ron’s available but first let me tell you what this is for… it’s the
clerk for the music department. What that is is you’ll be running around
and doing errands. There is a company car, but if it’s booked, would you
mind using your own car?” And I said, “(lowkey) Yeah, whatever it
takes.” And he sort of outlined kind of what it was, but not really, and
he leaves the room to make the call to Ron and I’m sort of, “(to
himself) AH HA HA!!” and he goes, “Yeah, Ron’s available right now, so
why don’t you just walk down Mickey Avenue (at the Disney Studio)…” so
I’m really jazzed and I’m thinking it doesn’t matter from this point on.
It doesn’t matter whether I get the job or anything… I am going for a
second interview in the same day and I’m walking down Mickey Avenue at
the Disney Studio.
I’m smiling and I’m not very much of a smiler and I had my sunglasses on
and everything.
I sat down, waiting for Ron and one of the secretary’s was there and I
actually struck up a conversation… another thing I normally don’t do. I
was called in for the interview and everything was fine and I left.
I found out that during my interview I had my sunglasses on the entire
time and did not know. These were Porsche Carrera driving glasses and I
actually looked like a hit man.
Several people had applied for the job and were coming up and asking who
was going to take the position and I found out later that somebody asked
if the job was taken and Ron said, “We’re going to give it to that
Thornton guy. He seems like an assassin, to where if any of our people
give us trouble…”
SW: (laughing) Did he really say that?
RT: Yeah, he really said that.
SW: Who was Ron?
RT: Ron Kidd, he was the Director of Product Development. He was the guy
that actually
hired me.
I started January 12, 1987 and February 12th was my birthday and that
was when the Disney store first opened on the lot.
SW: That was a great store because it was very unique studio merchandise, and
they didn’t have Disney Stores all over and it was things only for
employees.
RT: Right, so my birthday is when they actually opened it up and I’m
going, “Wow, it’s my birthday and I’m going to work at Disney… it
doesn’t really suck.” And I pull into the driveway there off of Alameda
and there’s three of the seven dwarfs (from Snow White) out there waving
me in, and I’m going, “What? Are they having this for my birthday? This
is a really cool place.” (we laugh) No, it’s a celebration for the Disney
store. It was just sort of a big party they were having.
More from Randy:
Producing the first "Mary Poppins" CD
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